What is your infinite unfinished goal? In this episode of the Human First Podcast, Penny Locaso talks purpose, failure, and the journey of self-discovery with Steven Ma, a curious person whose purpose is to make work more human. As Chief Purpose Officer and Agility Executive at No Moss, Steven co-designs organisations for empathy and agility, emphasising a more human purpose to work. 

This Week We Explore:
  • Steven's best failure
  • The radical thing he makes every employee do when they first join No Moss
  • How to bring your whole self to work
  • What it means to create an environment where people can live up to the expectations of their younger selves
  • The benefits of encouraging employees to unpack their purpose. Some of the outcomes are unexpected.
  • The reason why he wishes people would ask him the question, "How are you growing today?"
Where To Find Steven
Where To Find Penny
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